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..if you
want to spend several thousand dollars for the 'Cool
Factor' this is it, however the forums are loaded with
typical Loss of Control Issues and/or Fly-Aways, Battery
Failures etc..etc and the majority of the issue happen
After a Firmware Update(s).. and to Top it Off >12months
after Release the Mfg still hasn't released a
Maintenance Manual OR Made Avail Structural Repair
Parts.. EBay on the other hand is full of guys that have
crashed their drones and are trying to recoup the
thousands they've lost, so would I recommend this
product Absolutely Not..
..I've
actually got 2 of them I Crashed the 1st, (Yes bought
another Used for parts, figured I was already All In) it was no
doubt my fault, however, the Carbon Fiber Strut (STBD
Side) that
broke or rather Snapped after what should have been a survivable
Crash.. the Camera & Gimbal wasn't even damaged..
another STBD Strut & Cam/Gimbal Assy I'll have 2
Complete RTF Inspire1's
(Yes a Crash, even a Safe Landing is really only a
controlled crash..) upon close inspection of the Strut's ID
it showed piss poor manufacturing.. in fact it looked
as if it had been Wound with Scraps on the End of a
Broom-Stick, do a little reading on Carbon Fiber and the
Mfg Processes you'll understand what I mean.. In the
early days the Firmware Updates actually gave the nfo on
what exactly was updated, whether it be the Flight Ctrl
Sys, Camera, Gimbal, Air/Gnd Encoder(s) or the Loader
itself etc.. so that a buyer/flyer could decide for
themselves whether to update and/or actually track issues,
do trend or failure analysis etc, ..In fact I urged the
users of a well known forum to do exactly that and
include serial numbers of the crafts so that we could
independently build a *database, it basically fell on
deaf ears.. well soon thereafter (the Next Update) at
Firmware Version 12106 DJI decided to remove that
'feature' from
the data avail to the buyer/flyer and not a single
mention of this in the release notes for that firmware..
Also at some point DJI decided not to allow the Buyer to
DownGrade the Firmware, so lets say you're flying your
craft having no problems at all, one day you decide to
follow the rest of the sheep and UpDate.. now your craft
crashes, or looses signal range or any number of a doz
other issues reported.. you can't DownGrade to the Known
Good Version that was on your craft.. kinda funny and
sad isn't it.. (Update) DJI has allowed limited
DwnGrade ability for some firmware versions, I have not
kept close enough track to give a UpGrd-DwnGrd Matrix,
Maybe DJI will.. yeh right..) The DJI-Pilot or DJI-Go
App used to operate and control the craft gives a
Continuous Warning Message that '..Firmware UpDates Are
Required..!' Every time I've asked DJI specifically 'IF"
the update is actually Required for Safe Flight I get no
answer (..the broken english thing..) or my question to
them is removed from the forum (BTW Walkera did the same
thing to my posts on their site, including in the
beginning not allowing me to attach images, then later
removing images of the defects found hahhah.. but
they can't remove them from my site, as time permits
I'll update the Tali-500 page).. so again if you want
the Cool-Factor that may very well turn into a 2K$
smoldering pile of rubble the next flight.. by all means
buy in.. I run an Old Version of the Firmware & an Old
version of the DJI-Pilot App, to date have somewhere
btwn 25-30 flight/hrs or approx ≥152 total flights..
..recently acquired spare Struts & Cam/Gimbal Assy, once
the new Z3 Cam/Gimbal is received I'll re-assm
Inspire1-01..
* ..this
is the Msg I posted to both the Walkera & DJI forums:
Tali / Inspire Owners: Suggestion,, lets build a
database with the Serial#'s, Firmware Versions, Date(s)
of Mfg, Date(s) of Receipt of our Tali's/Inspire's and
log the Problems.. we may in time be able to see a
trend.. just a thought, but back when the 1st Canon 10D
camera's came out.. lota guys were using them for
AstroPhotography.. and it became very evident pretty
quik that there was a series within the Serial#'s of
Camera's with lack of a better term.. Sub-Standard
Chips.. i.e. Excessive Dark Current, Noise, Amp Glow
etc..etc.. Obviously there wasn't much you could do
about it in terms of a refund or something... given that
the 10D was not designed or 'Advertised' for
AstroPhotography like say the 20Da was at the time..
But! if enough data/proof is compiled 'MMAYYBE we could
then force or compel a change/update from Walkera/DJI..
and if nothing else.. it would be real helpful on the
used market... again just a thought.. |
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..over
the last year or so the drone forums have gotten so full
of dribble its very difficult to glean any real data,
but I have read of some that have sent their drones back
to DJI (waited several months) and based on a case by
case basis DJI has made some warranty repairs.. And in
some cases DJI has come to the conclusion that the the
Fault/Error resulting Crash was Operator Error and then
have offered 10-15% Discount on the purchase of a new
Inspire.. again
factual nfo on the original damage or issue is Spotty
(PC Term)
and the types of repairs when made by DJI is unknown.. I
have read that in most cases of 'Defect or Failure
After' Firmware update that it is usually blamed on some
hardware issue by DJI which is actually typical, typical
of either a mfg not admitting to fault or someone
that doesn't know what their doing, or in this case
Both! Blame the Machine hahha.. A mass produced product
performs well, an update is made and in some cases the
craft simply Tumbles Out of the Sky.. others install
the same update and no adverse effects, or none found..
the Firmware update files are usually distributed in ZIP
format, the archived Firmware file is in .bin format and
have ranged from 39-87meg.. yet DJI doesn't include any
parity checking, why? who knows? could some of these
issues be caused by corrupt firmware files? Based on
whats known I'd bet its highly likely.. If you still
decide to buy in, my advise is this.. Document
Everything, i.e. Firmware as Received, Before &
After UpDates, Issues that May Have Been Caused by the
UpDates and BackUp ALL Flight Logs, try to use your
brain while flying, in other words fly it Safely i.e.
Follow the Mfg Safe Flying Environment Requirements and Use
an Android Tablet to run the DJI-Pilot or DJI-Go App,
(by all means stay as far away
as possible from Apple Tablets (products) they're simply
garbage and have absolutely no advantage over the
Android OS, NONE.. don't take my word for it, peruse the
forums, notice how many Apple Cry Babies there are,
whining about this not working properly or that.. its
really amazing that they still sell.. I own an iPAD and
would Never Even consider using it as the CS, reason
being.. that iPAD, with Purchased Apple Branded
Accessories doesn't work properly, they don't interface
well, one compatibility issue after another and why
people think they will have reliable trouble free
experience when trying to interface these RC's/CS's with
an Apple is again, its beyond comprehension, over the
last couple of months I have been collecting various
CrashLogs and the data shows issues with iOS are 2:1
over the Android OS, as time permits I will also include
that data here on this site).. UPDATE: I
am currently in the market for a Phantom 3 Advanced., in
fact I gave Walkera another try and purchased the Scout
X4B (Hybrid) (I still Think the Scout is one of the Best
Looking QuadCopters out there.. as far as looks, in
comparison the Phantom..Please) ..but it was defective
right out of the box.. so back it went) ..anyway it has
come to my attention while researching and shopping the
P3A (May-Jun2016) that there are several vendors out there offering
the Phantom 3 Advanced with VERY Attractive Pricing..
again my 2cents worth of advise.. verify the P3A Package
Deal you're looking at Includes the P3A/P Hand-Held
Remote vs the Phantom 3 Standard's Hand-Held Remote..
Also 100% of the vendors I've been in contact with play
the ignorance card when it come to either the Date of
Mfg (clearly labeled on the original packaging) and/or
the Firmware Version of the crafts being sold.. MANY
users have reported after updating firmware that the
range of their Phantoms have been basically cut in
half.. when I can get reliable data on this matter (the
actual Firmware Version #'s) I'll update.. UpDate²:
after alot of reading I'm go'n with the P4.. |
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..(above) this is a partial overview of a select 20 of
130+ flights on
my Inspire1-02, Very rarely do I Land with <1.5min
remaining battery power, more typically I land with
approx 2min remaining, these 20flts/av was approx 23%
power remaining.. This data is extracted from the
Flight-Log(s) and is then Complied by Healthy-Drones..
(below) this is my (still evolving) equipment log for
the Inspire01-02, All Data Generated including
FlightLogs & Imaging are Backed Up to WD Ultra-Passport
HD's & BD-R DL Disks.. (BTW, the Prop-Map, 18ea
pairs and this was the best set I could put together,
have 3 other sets (out of the same 18) but aren't nearly
as well matched, for whatever reason ( the Dies..) the
CCW props are always much Heavier, in my 18sets anywhere
from 0.7g to 1.0g..!) |
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